A cookie notice that seeks permission to share your details with “848 of our partners” and “actively scan device details for identification”.
Hate when they remove the reject all button
In the EU and UK this is also forbidden as rejecting should be as simple as accepting cookies.
In theory yes, in practice “uh-huh.”
I just implemented a cookie consent bar on my company’s website and the agencies/vendors who advertise for us were giving me so much shit for having reject available right away. But thankfully our Legal department said keep it there… Or else. “Hands tied… Soooooorry!”
Consent-o-matic browser extension can handle a lot of cookie banners and automatically rejects all possible cookies.
Reject all is actually you agreeing on the legitimate interests loophole so this is also problematic.
Yea… That is true. But I think, if uBlock blocks the banner, consent would not be able to reject/approve anything. Think of it as a fallback solution 😇well in my case.
But some pages stiff you by disabling scroll capability if you hide the banner
Please explain.
I used to rely on Consent-O-Matic a lot, but I’m somewhat uncomfortable by the fact that the extension has full access to all web page content. I mean I understand why, but I’m still uncomfortable with it. In the end I ended up uninstalling it because it broke some sites so that they wouldn’t load at all, or got stuck into an infinite reload loop. On majority of cases it works alright though.
Yea, every extension has full access to any website, if you not make use of a whitelist/blacklist.
Some extensions, such as SponsorBlock for YouTube actually limit themselves so they can only operate when the browser is on youtube.com. This can be declared in the extension manifest. It’s a separate permission to access data on all web sites vs. access data on a specific website.
Not helpful when something like Consent-o-matic needs to operate on every possible website with a cookie banner.
I have had the same concerns, since watching it click through things faster than I can see is scary. Maybe some day someone sneaks in a cookie banner detector that activates on banking pages to steal your money? uBlock Origin has similar risks, but at least it’s not actively controlling browser inputs.
The most effective solution is just to wipe all cookies every time you close your browser, or creating strict cookie whitelists. Actually managing cookies on webpages is for normies.
and then every time you visit that one good news site, you have to go through their cookie banner each time. That or install a cookie-denying addon and hope that they don’t sellout or sell your data.
You have a total of four choices:
1a. Wipe all their cookies every time, reject them every time they ask.
1b. Wipe all their cookies every time, accept them every time they ask. 2a. Don’t wipe cookies, keep the “essential” ones. 2b. Don’t wipe cookies, accept all our most of them.2b is the only scenario where you might not get asked again. 1b is the easiest no thanks.
I use the duck duck go browser because it makes that the default and offers to whitelist sites for cookies if you log into them (but you can turn that off in settings). It also autorejects a lot of cookies that use common popups.
2a seems the most rational, no?
Also maybe switch to mullvad-browser instead of DDG browser, since DDG has some controversies (search: “Zach Edwards” on the wiki) on what data it saves.
Sadly that is not an option for firefox on android yet (while it is on desktop), the only choises you are left with are:
- Use ff focus that completely resets the browser deleting every cookie in the process
- Use normal ff and:
- Just accept that you have to deal with cookies and care to carefully select Reject on every banner
- Turn on delete data on “exit button press” (which sadly deletes everything again, with no possibility to whitelist some websites).
That said, i believe Firefox should have (even on android) their “total cookie protection” thing which puts them in separate containers for each domain, so you are somewhat protected by cookie cross-tracking, but i would still prefer to delete most of them at close.
Having seem the inside of some of these trackers, I can assure you that cross-domain “protection” is a furphy. Also, 848 partners is small fries. For shits and giggles you should turn on network logging on Firefox or Chrome and open any modern news website.
Yea, 😂, I was very shocked on the amount of server contacted when I first time installed a pi-hole and opened a local news page while being on piHole webUI to test if it works.
Sadly that is not an option for firefox on android yet
Eh?
I was talking about there being no option to whitelist some websites to keep their cookies, and as you can see it is not present there, while the desktop versione has it
Oh, right.
You could try an extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/cookiewhitelist/
If trackers are disabled, some content and ads you see may not be as relevant to you.
Oh, the horror! (Not that we’ll be seeing ads anyway.)
Back in the early 2000s, we were promised that the magic of ads online would be that they are always relevant and not terrible anymore. This is why the targeting and tracking was valid to do.
It never happened. Not for a moment.
“some content and ads you see may not be as relevant to you” is what we in mathematical logic call a vacuous truth.
2 days and this post has fewer likes than number of companies that get your data for visiting the Verge. Holy crap, that’s terrifying
As someone who works in tech, I can confidently say that many people plainly do not understand what cookies do and why they exist. There are plenty of cookies that are good and useful, but third party advertising tracking cookies are the devil folks don’t like. Necessary, performance and functional cookies are all chill.
Like the cookie that stores the “Reject All the cookies” response for your next visit 😇
A question: What is preventing the site using one huge cookie for all purposes, thus preventing fully functional use of the site without also enabling all other forms of tracking?
Cookies are very small snippets of code that have a specific purpose. Making a one-size-fits-all cookie would make them complicated and much harder to track - which goes against the point of a cookie. Also, cookies are often independent of each other because they are from different providers/different tools. Having a one-size-fits-all cookie would also present a security hazard and make laws similar to GDPR about cookie tracking difficult to implement. An example of a tool that actually does use one cookie is Adobe’s Marketo. You can read some more about them here. https://termly.io/resources/articles/types-of-internet-cookies/
848 partners? Damn I hope y’all got tested.
Now name them all.
I think you actually usually can get them to list them all, never much interested, they’re all going to be completely random names you never heard of, just so long as I can reject them all, that’s all I care about, otherwise I have to browse a different website on principle.
Well. I appreciate the honesty… I guess.
Yea because I want a news site to have my precise geolocation data.
We all have a fundamental right to privacy, which is constantly violated. Not just on a daily basis, but on a minute by minute basis.
But to play devil’s advocate for a moment to assuage some FUD around posts like this, how many of the absurd amount of cookies overlap in otherwise innoculous ways. For instance, product tracking cookies. Say you bought a pumpkin on Amazon, and that drops a gorde cookie, a pumpkin spice cookie, a cornucopia cookie etc.
That’s certainly not the same as buy a pumpkin, track your location around the nearest pumpkin patch, read your grandma’s emails about pumpkins, and collect information to determine your likelihood of buying another pumpkin based on your sexual orientation.
The latter certainly exists, but does anyone know much about the former? How prevalent would they be in that 850?
Remember when they passed laws protecting our library and video store rental histories instead of letting data brokers hoover up every song you listen to and every news article you read?
If you’re referring to the US’ Video Privacy Protection Act, it was passed only because it slightly embarrassed a Supreme Court nominee.
So for there to be half-decent online privacy laws in the US, first someone will have to leak Clarence Thomas’ Pornhub search history or something like that.
That doesn’t include the partners of their partners
I blame all these polyamorous relationships with barely any rules.
World’s nosiest polycule
They like to watch.
Me: *logs on to their website*
Them:
Don’t worry bro, its just me and 2000 of my closest friends. Totally legit.
If the partner count is larger than the number of bananas I can imagine being in a bunch I decline cookies. If I can’t disable performance or targeting cookies I decline cookies. These are my rules
til I can only imagine 0 bananas in a bunch
I switched to cookie allowlist, and manually add the sites I want to remember me. I don’t want to play the cookie game anymore, period. The only reason they ask is because legally they have to, and even then they do the bare minimum and use dark patterns to make it as hard as possible to decline cookies.
No more cookies for anyone, should have used them responsibly in the first place.
I decline cookies.
I push away the plate and slap the butler
And the EU has forced us to answer that goddamn “do you accept cookies?” question on every frigging website. How many people just click “accept all” to get on with things?
THAT IS A BIG FAT LIE! The EU did not force any such thing. The EU simply said that people’s data cannot be used without consent. This is the website asking for consent.
Website developers have a perfectly valid choice not to collect any data. They chose their profits above your privacy.
I have a website and I don’t have a popup asking for consent, because I don’t need to, because I don’t collect any data.
Cookie Auto-Delete helps with that.
There’s cookie lists in uBlock Origin. Just enable them.
